[nycbug-talk] Newbie can't boot server - needs person or shop in NYC with mobos & CPUs to troubleshoot

George R. george
Fri Aug 19 15:40:17 EDT 2005

Charles Sprickman wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
>> On Aug 19, 2005, at 1:39 AM, alex at pilosoft.com wrote:
>>> What puzzles me is *why* people assume they know all about PC 
>>> hardware and
>>> try to assemble server themselves instead of buying one from Dell. You
>>> spent more money on parts and far more money on time, than if you just
>>> bought Dell 750 server.
>> wow, those 750 servers are cheap ($650!)
> OT, but I see the base price as about $2026.  Where's the $650 figure 
> come from?
> Further OT, but Li at GCServe.com gets one of my employer's really great 
> deals on SuperMicro 1U's.  We just took delivery of two 1Us with 3.0 P4, 
> two 36GB Seagate 10K/U320 scsi drives, Adaptec zero-channel raid card, 
> 2GB of RAM and two built-in GigE ports for about $1400/each.  Seems like 
> an excellent deal for a SCSI/RAID setup.

I have been dealing with GCS for probably 10 years now. . . and Lee 
there made a funny point to me once.

Customers take it in stride when a major vendor's box has a component 
crash, like some "high-quality" maxtor drive (WTF is the mtbf? 12 
hours?), it's taken in stride.

When a small unknown vendor has a component die, customers go through 
the ceiling automatically.

Maybe supermicro is a bad example of an unknown vendor, but you get my 


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