[nycbug-talk] For and Against IPv6

[Marc Spitzer]

On 10/13/07, Trish Lynch <trish at bsdunix.net> wrote:
> Government paying private contractors is *quite* capitalistic.

To provide service to that government yes,

>
> Socialism is where the company is owned by the state or run by the state, an important part of capitalism is charginbg the government for work done in the private sector.
>

So you agree with me subsides are a form of socialism, if the only way
I can stay in business is through the continued granting of subsidies
and the state can decertify me for said money they own me.  You know I
do not like some of the traffic going over your network and your
contract is up for renewal in 2 months, you may want to address the
issue and have a nice day.

marc

> -Trish
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jesse Callaway" <bonsaime at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:48:09
> To:"Marc Spitzer" <mspitzer at gmail.com>
> Cc:NYCBUG List <talk at lists.nycbug.org>
> Subject: Re: [nycbug-talk] For and Against IPv6
>
>
> On 10/13/07, Marc Spitzer <mspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/13/07, Bjorn Nelson <o_sleep at belovedarctos.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Oct 12, 2007, at 4:09 PM, csnyder wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 10/12/07, Marc Spitzer <mspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> And this makes the hosting and network transport companies money how?
> > > >> And that is
> > > >> Alex's main point how does it help me pay my rent as a business?  If
> > > >> it does not then, generally speaking, I should not do it.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, but that is actually my point. The adoption of ipv6 may need to
> > > > happen most for applications that are _not_ driven by commerce and
> > > > that don't directly pay anybody's rent.
> > >
> > > i.e. Government Contract.  Any politicians on the list?
> > >
> >
> > perfect more socialism in america, just what we need.
> >
> > marc
> > --
>
>
> Socialistic-seeming constraints are necessary to prop up the health of
> our capitalistic national economy. Without road and utilities being
> chartered by the gov't people would be living in the woods with no way
> to get to work, and arguably with no reason to go.
> Trash is collected "for free" (taxes pay) in NYC because it cannot
> afford to be dirtier. Some communities understand that the all the
> inhabitants would NEVER let trash sit on the curb if they could pay
> someone to pick it up, and bank on that. It goes to show that it
> really depends on the particulars of how necessary the guidelines and
> money from government is to the ability of people to work, ie live.
> We would literally die if the trash wasn't picked up in NY for a
> considerable time. Will we die if we don't get ipv6? No. But it does
> hamper the ability to securely provide SOAP services  and efficiently
> provide streaming of voice and video. This means it's holding up porn
> and gambling. That's a no-no in the economy, and the reality of
> capitalism, especially that which is most backing the expansion of the
> Internet.
> Sorry, I just couldn't let that one go. It's a standard rant I have
> pent up that I feed live chickens once a week.
> Anyway, if my argument holds any water then ipv6 will be deployed in
> the US when it has to be. It seems we've been near the breaking point
> for a couple of years and may have to hang in there for a bit longer.
>
>
> -jesse
>
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