[nycbug-talk] Fwd: ARM Architecture Reference Manual availability

[Brian Callahan]

On 09/11/13 10:33, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote:
>
> On September 11, 2013 10:17:15 AM EDT, Brian Callahan 
> <bcallah at devio.us> wrote:
>
>> On 9/11/2013 9:51 AM, George Rosamond wrote:
>>> This is from the FBSD ARM list.. .may be of interest to some people on
>>> this list.
>>>
>>> g
>>
>> Hot on the heels of this announcement, here's how Linus feels about 
>> ARM SoC developers:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/11/torvalds_suggests_poison_and_sabotage_for_arm_soc_designers/ 
>>
>>
>> (totally no bias from me...)
>>
>
> Well, I guess that opens the door wide for more businesses to adopt 
> *BSD on ARM, as the "internet of things" becomes more of a thing.
>
> With that, sorry to shift the conversation sideways, but I see a few 
> big-picture roadblocks:
>
> - General USB support for various ARM hardwares.  Sore spot, I know- 
> but it's a pretty serious blocker for *BSD to take off in the emerging 
> maker/builder/application ARM community.
>
> - General *solid* Ethernet support for various ARM hardwares. It's 
> simply no good to deploy, and have the nic jam up.
>
> I know these are problems because of cost- inexpensive hw is not 
> quality, as well as being a moving target.  (My comments come after my 
> *very light* tinkering with FreeBSD and OpenBSD on arm- and years and 
> years of soekris/pcengines fun...)
>
> -- 
> What can non OS-developers (like myself) do to help these two issues 
> along?
>

* Documentation, documentation, documentation (almost certainly why some 
devices are supported while others have no interest)
* Test everything, and I mean everything, if you have a supported board. 
Detailed bug reports are awesome. (+patches if you can)
* Get new hardware into the hands of *BSD developers with an interest in 
ARM.

> Best,
> .ike
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: ARM Architecture Reference Manual availability
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:25:06 +0100
>>> From: Andrew Wafaa <Andrew.Wafaa at arm.com>
>>> To: arm at freebsd.org <arm at freebsd.org>
>>>
>>> To all those interested,
>>>
>>> ARM have finally published the reference manual for ARMv8 \o/ You can
>>> grab a copy [0] now, you will need to accept the EULA first.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> 0 -
>>> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0487a/index.html 
>>>
>>>
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