[Semibug] tragedy of systemd: was: OT: is there any office package (especially spreadsheet) that lets me choose a PEN color

[Kyle Willett]

Replying to the thread about systemd, having to work with it in RHEL 8 and
9 servers in my day job it has grown on me a bit as an init system, BUT it
is also a journal, cron system, device manager (udev), soon will be its own
sudo replacement with run0, grub replacement, etc, etc, and the kitchen
sink too!

One piece of software can't be that good at so many different tasks!

That being said I don't think it calls for a full boycott of Linux, as
Jonahan mentioned there are still good distros like Devuran.  I personally
have AntiX on a laptop that just wouldn't cooperate with OpenBSD.  As much
as I love BSD Unix it does have a hardware support issue simply put.

I'm just dreading having to use RHEL 10 at work next year or the next where
everything if foreign.  I really don't see the need for run0 when we have
doas as a perfectly good sudo replacement.

Well wishes,
Kyle

On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 10:11 PM Jonathan Drews <jondrews at fastmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 09:06:39PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Ron / BCLUG said on Thu, 23 May 2024 12:12:31 -0700
> >
> >
> > I'll address his central point, which is that systemd has many
> > benefits. My rebuttal is that nobody needs that kind of complexity.
>
> I don't know what the cause was but I could never get scanning (xsane)
> to work on either Linux Mint or Kubuntu.
>
>  One of the claims about systemd is that it would provide faster boot
> up. However, my Devuan Linux boots faster than either KdeNeon or
> Kubuntu or Linux Mint. All three were installed on the same T480
> laptop, which now runs Devuan.
>
> Finally there is the xz exploit, which has a writeup:
> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=171179460913574&w=2
>
> it leads in with a quote to remember -
>
> "This dependency existed not because of a deliberate design decision
> by the developers of OpenSSH, but because of a kludge added by some
> Linux distributions to integrate the tool with the operating
> system's newfangled orchestration service, systemd."
>
> ---
> Kind regards,
> Jonathan
>
>
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